Outrage Velocity .50 Build

[dunkonu23]

I've started on the Velocity .50. I'm building the head because that's where the manual starts. I'll be jumping around some because you can't build the frames without the motor and governor sensor. I'll post pictures as this progresses. It's going to be a slow build, though. I'll be buying the motor and other items as funds permit.

Scott

[dunkonu23]

Here's the first set of pictures of the build. The entire head assembly comes in one big bag, divided many times with each division holding bags of parts. EVERYTHING is disassembled, which is cool. No taking anything apart to see if they're threadlocked. During the build, I made certain to soak each screw in 99 percent isopropyl alcohol, then I cleaned each thread with a paper towel, pointed, and soaked with alcohol. The bearing surfaces are incredibly smooth. Everything fits extremely well. Links are super tight. Had I not read that tight links are normal for Outrage helicopters, I would have resized the links. I read that after one or two tanks, the links free up nicely.

The head is super-programmable. Every link point has up to three settings. One setting each for beginner, intermediate, and advanced. In at least two cases, links can be sized and set for super advanced. I stuck with intermediate settings throughout. I figured I could tame it via headspeed if necessary. We'll see. Even the flybar paddles have two settings. One for normal and one for super quick. Of course, I picked normal.

Next up, after maiden of the T-Rex 450 pro tomorrow, will be the tail assembly. It's a torque tube job... yep, you even have to assemble the torque tube!

It's going to be fun build. The manual is nothing short of super. In my experience, it's the best manual so far. More importantly, nothing was amiss anywhere. Every manufacturer that I've built so far... Helipro, Align, and Gaui could learn from the parts organization and of course, the manual.

Scott

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[dunkonu23]

One more picture!

Scott

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[billmay]

Super looking head assembly, Scott, and I like the canopy too!! I've seen other paddles with the two flybar mounting positions. So I take it that the more forward position is the normal/slower paddle position???

I've noticed that even the stock Gaui head offers two mounting positions on the mixing arms although I don't recall that they mention it in the manual. The standard position uses the outer holes so I assume moving to the inner holes would slow things down a bit. I've actually been surprised how responsive the stock plastic Gaui head seems for such a large heli.

Bill

[9sec240]

SICK canopy!!! Very cool. Sounds like they were really thinking when they designed this heli.

[dunkonu23]

Yep, you're right, Bill. I've got the flybar in the slower, forward mount point.

Yep, the Gaui has some programming options, but not like this. My BH500 has programming options, too.. not like this. The thing that I find very important here is link sizing. The V50 manual tells you not only where to position the links, but what size they need to be. Based on what I've done so far, I also think it's the only manual to date with accurate link sizes.

On the Gaui positioning.. I think you're right. Initially on the Gaui, I used the slowest holes, but recently moved them to the fastest position. Honestly, with the Head Hunter frames, I found headspeed is more important.

Scott

Dec 29, 2009 16:06:24 GMT -5 billmay said:

Super looking head assembly, Scott, and I like the canopy too!! I've seen other paddles with the two flybar mounting positions. So I take it that the more forward position is the normal/slower paddle position???

I've noticed that even the stock Gaui head offers two mounting positions on the mixing arms although I don't recall that they mention it in the manual. The standard position uses the outer holes so I assume moving to the inner holes would slow things down a bit. I've actually been surprised how responsive the stock plastic Gaui head seems for such a large heli.

Bill

[dunkonu23]

thanks, Ivan! Man, those pictures do not do the canopy justice!

Sooo well thought out. I mean, the entire head assembly comes in a big bag that's divided into subassembly bags. Each subassembly bag has all the parts needed complete that subassembly. No fishing around mulitple bags to build. Just that alone makes the build so much more fun, and organized!

Scott

Dec 29, 2009 19:24:43 GMT -5 9sec240 said:

SICK canopy!!! Very cool. Sounds like they were really thinking when they designed this heli.

[Jerrymac]

I am with Bill and Ivan on the canopy too Scott. Awesome. That sounds like a very well thought out kit. I like the idea that nothing is pre-assembled. Both my Gaui kits came partly assembled and I tore them all apart and reassembled them anyhow. Also surprising that the manual is that detailed. I know my Gaui, Helipro, and Esky manuals were all pretty vague about the assembly and set-up. Had to just guess most of the time.

Good luck with the build.

[dunkonu23]

Thanks, Jerry. It's the best manual out there, but there is room for improvement. The first thing I noticed when building the links is that there is no lettering on the links to indicate the outward facing side. The manual shows pictures of links with lettering. Thankfully, these links are like Helipro links (albeit much stronger) with a molding circle on the inner facing side. I'm trying to think of other things that I would improve but can't right now... lots going on here at work. Gotta run.

Scott

Dec 30, 2009 1:11:50 GMT -5 Jerrymac said:

I am with Bill and Ivan on the canopy too Scott. Awesome. That sounds like a very well thought out kit. I like the idea that nothing is pre-assembled. Both my Gaui kits came partly assembled and I tore them all apart and reassembled them anyhow. Also surprising that the manual is that detailed. I know my Gaui, Helipro, and Esky manuals were all pretty vague about the assembly and set-up. Had to just guess most of the time.

Good luck with the build.

[billmay]

Scott, before I bought the H550 I also thought about the Outrage 550 and was impressed by its online manual and the mechanical programmability of the head as well. But, in the end, it all came down to the dollars. That's the main disadvantage I see to the HH frame. You add a couple of hundred dollars to the H550 price and you might as well consider the Outrage 550 which gives you all the "upgrades" right off the bat. Anyway, real nice machine you've got there!!

[dunkonu23]

You know Bill, I thought the same thing, too. Then Ben lowered the price on the frames and that was all it took for me to jump on them. I do not regret that purchase one bit. I suppose another factor is that my wife bought me the initial kit. I did spend on upgrades, but honestly, the Outrage 550 never entered into my view. I had read about it, but at the time, I was (and still am) very happy with my T-Rex 500 esp. In fact, I probably would have never got the Gaui had my wife not bought it for me. I'm so glad I got it, though. Stock, it did more for my confidence than any other helicopter had or has done to date. With the HH frames, it really added more to my confidence. In the end, I think that's all I could have asked for.

I never dreamed I would have won anything let alone what appears to have been the grand prize (the Velocity 50) in the raffle. All I wanted to do is help someone who is very sick.

My wife is leery of the nitro aspect and I am, too. But if I sold the kit, I would be profiting on the misfortune of someone else and that would be dead wrong. So, I'm building it and we'll see where that goes. How fast that happens depends on how much money I can funnel into it and right now, it's going to be very slow.

Of course, your opinion is very valid, Bill. It is all about the money. You know, if someone is happy with something that costs way less than something else, who are we to question? There's a lot of helicopter snobbery out there and I suppose we're all guilty to a degree, but what we have is what we have, be they popular, expensive, or not.

Scott

PS... I bet you didn't expect this!

Dec 30, 2009 9:51:52 GMT -5 billmay said:

Scott, before I bought the H550 I also thought about the Outrage 550 and was impressed by its online manual and the mechanical programmability of the head as well. But, in the end, it all came down to the dollars. That's the main disadvantage I see to the HH frame. You add a couple of hundred dollars to the H550 price and you might as well consider the Outrage 550 which gives you all the "upgrades" right off the bat. Anyway, real nice machine you've got there!!

[dunkonu23]

Well, I built the entire tail works yesterday. From boom block to the end of the tail. Not too shabby. The tail assembly itself has a lot of bearing surfaces. Probably two more than are really necessary but given the design and the workmanship, it's really sweet. Probably about 16 or 18 bearings in the tail itself, alone.

Scott

[9sec240]

I remember doing builds where nothing was put together at all. My Furion 450 came in like 10,000 pieces. It took forever to build but it was worth it in the end.

[dunkonu23]

You know, I actually like having to build every last little thing. At least that way, I know it's done by me and it's hopefully correct. How do you like your Furion? I think you have what two?

That picture of your 600 in bed is really cracking me up!

Scott


quote author=9sec240 board=helis thread=29 post=196 time=1262588942]I remember doing builds where nothing was put together at all. My Furion 450 came in like 10,000 pieces. It took forever to build but it was worth it in the end.[/quote]

[9sec240]

Scott, the Furion is a really nice heli from what I remember. I took the HS65s out of it and put them in my T450S GF and have not flown it in forever. I really need to get it flying again. I recently did a trade that scored me a second Furion. I traded my Gaui 200SE with motor, ESC and cyclic servos for a Furion with HS65MGs.

[dunkonu23]

Hey Ivan,

If I recall correctly, Kyle Stacy wins indoor competitons all the time with Furion's. How was it when it was flying? Just wondering.

Scott

[9sec240]

Kyle and Bobby Watts both fly the Furion in the competitions. They fly nicer than I can fly em. LOL

[dunkonu23]

LOL! Hey... you do outstanding stationery flips! There's video proof!

Scott

[Jerrymac]

This thread has been kinda quiet lately. Any updates on the build Scott?

[dunkonu23]

I ordered the Engine, pipe, and some tools for it Friday. I was thinking they'd get here Saturday, but no luck there. Today, they'll be here. I won't be able to start on the frame build until Thursday so that's cool. Hopefully before then, I'll know what else I need. I'm thinking:

Orange Fuel line (Outrage!)
KSJ975O fuel line clamps
and various fittings.

Scott