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Post by dunkonu23 on May 19, 2010 1:54:36 GMT -5
I dunno... mine don't do that unless I want it to do it. He may be talking about the beeps after it initializes that tell you the options you have set. Scott Yeah, that is what I was thinking too, but was a little confused the way he said it. All of my helis make an initial tone from the motor when the esc is plugged in. I think that's what he meant. Align ESC's will beep to tell you programming parameters after they've initialized and played the arming tones. Once you get used to it it's not a biggie. Those tones stop after one pass through all parameters. Oddly enough, I don't think they tell you what BEC voltage you have set. On Castle's there's a beep that you can turn on or off that tells you the ESC is armed every 30 seconds after the armed tones. Scott
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Post by Jerrymac on May 19, 2010 2:23:53 GMT -5
Here is another thought I had on my blinking rx. When I test flew it this weekend, it was after I installed the cheapo Dyman 30A esc after the other one failed.
It was blinking at the field when I was flying it hard each flight, but, as I posted earlier, it didn't do it just sitting on the ground in the yard spinning at half throttle.
Then, when I took off in the yard and flew it harder it started blinking again. I may be wrong here, but, I just wonder if the esc being a little too small for the motor caused a drop in voltage to the rx when I "punched" the throttle while flying. Any thoughts on this?
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Post by billmay on May 19, 2010 8:50:45 GMT -5
There is some good reading in there Bill, but I still did not see anything about a loss-of-signal. Only a loss of voltage, below 3.2 volts, unless I missed it somewhere. The flight log data section, explains monitoring for fades and frame losses, but it does not say that the led will flash if a frame loss is encountered. That was why I thought maybe I have a bad or loose connection somewhere, I dunno. Well, an RX reboot due to a loss of voltage IS a loss of signal. ;D ;D The early RX's would take 2-3 seconds to reboot so you would definitely know it if you were flying the heli. The newer ones remember the frequency they were on and reconnect instantly so you might not be aware of it. The whole point of the flashing RX is to tell you that you had a low voltage dropout. It makes sense that this would be more likely to happen when you are actually flying the heli under load rather than just spinning it sitting on the ground. Anyway, take it for what it's worth but it sounds like you have a power/voltage regulation issue to me (which might include a loose connection as well). Bill
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Post by Jerrymac on May 21, 2010 2:50:55 GMT -5
Well, I think I might just wait till I replace the esc, then see what happens. The whole thing was kinda strange though, as one servo quit working at the same time the motor quit. Then even a spare motor and esc would not work until I rebinded the rx. After rebinding the servo and spare motor and esc worked.
Not sure if the esc failing caused all the other issues, but if it did, it is kinda strange. I haven't ordered an esc yet, as I am looking to get some more batteries too, and want to get them all at the same time if I can.
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Post by dunkonu23 on May 31, 2010 22:53:47 GMT -5
Just got some rather distrubing news from Randy over on RCU. He had a Castle BEC Pro let go and it took out all the electronics in his new Compass 6HV. THAT SUCKS soooo bad. It makes me re-evaluate my Castle loyalty, big time. Only time will tell if Castle takes care of him properly--meaning, full replacement of ALL parts destroyed. Unacceptable failure. Completely unacceptable.
Scott
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Post by Jerrymac on Jun 1, 2010 0:56:08 GMT -5
Just got some rather distrubing news from Randy over on RCU. He had a Castle BEC Pro let go and it took out all the electronics in his new Compass 6HV. THAT SUCKS soooo bad. It makes me re-evaluate my Castle loyalty, big time. Only time will tell if Castle takes care of him properly--meaning, full replacement of ALL parts destroyed. Unacceptable failure. Completely unacceptable. Scott That really sucks. Failure of a single component is one thing, but, when it causes damage to all the other electronics, that is a serious issue. I doubt that Castle will take care of all the damage. Like most suppliers, they will likely claim that it was not the fault of their product. They will probably replace the failed unit, but I would be willing to bet that is all they will do. For Randy's sake, I hope I am wrong, but, a friend of mine had the same thing happen and they were only willing to replace the failed part. Worse yet, they required him to pay the shipping both ways. He told them to "shove it up their @@@" and just started using a different brand. I personally have had no experience with CC products, however they have a very bad reputation around here , so I probably never will have any. I hope Randy fairs better than others have with the same failure.
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Post by billmay on Jun 1, 2010 8:07:18 GMT -5
Just got some rather distrubing news from Randy over on RCU. He had a Castle BEC Pro let go and it took out all the electronics in his new Compass 6HV. THAT SUCKS soooo bad. It makes me re-evaluate my Castle loyalty, big time. Only time will tell if Castle takes care of him properly--meaning, full replacement of ALL parts destroyed. Unacceptable failure. Completely unacceptable. Scott After my last H550 crash, I had to replace the ESC and went with a Castle ICE 75A. However, I had been using an external 5A BEC so I reinstalled that and disabled the Castle's internal BEC. Kind of makes me glad I did (even though Randy's situation is different). I guess I'll also be surprised if Castle does anything but you can always hope. Bill
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Post by dunkonu23 on Jun 2, 2010 0:01:44 GMT -5
I have an ICE 75 that's been nothing but good and a Phoenix 60 on another helicopter that's been cool... I think the issue is entirely with their BEC PRO. I just read over on RCU that Castle is owning up to the flaws in the unit and may compensate him monetarily. It still doesn't excuse them of selling the BEC Pro which is clearly flawed. I mean, this is a dangerous hobby. Imagine if this happened in flight?
Scott
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Post by Jerrymac on Jun 2, 2010 1:02:25 GMT -5
Well, if Castle is owning up to the flaws, then it would only be right for them to compensate him for the other electronics that were damaged. Also, if they are aware of a flaw in the bec, they should at least recall the remaining stock from dealers until they correct the problem, then ship out an updated version.
I don't mean to sound too harsh, or like I am bashing Castle. I just think if a company makes something, then finds that there is a problem they should fix it quickly.
Heck, I get dozens of service bulletins from Mack and Volvo every month for things as small as a single bolt somewhere that might not have been properly torqued at the factory. We have to notify all our customers and make them an appointment to come in just to check one bolt.
Anyhow, I hope they take care of Randy. And I agree Scott , this can be a dangerous hobby as there are so many small moving parts and electronics that could fail in flight. An out of control helicopter, be it pilot error or a malfunction can be very serious to those around.
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Post by xodarap1 on Jun 2, 2010 20:50:46 GMT -5
It would be great if they would take care of replacing the defective part and replace it with a better, upgraded model and cover the damaged parts costs. I doubt that they will though, because when my cc bec's burned up on the heli it took out $600 worth of electronics with it and castle would not replace the damaged parts even though i fully explained the damages and supplied photos of the burned chip on the unit. All they said they would to is send me another unit like the ones that had burned up twice before. .. uh.. no thanks. I'm not into going into a third round for more punishment lol. uhh..bad memories.. but anyway, i hope they do take care of him. Steve
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Post by Jerrymac on Jul 16, 2010 0:51:12 GMT -5
Well, I finally got the time to remember to buy parts for my BH450. Been flying my Gaui helis and almost forgot about fixin the BH 450 till my grandson asked me about it Sunday. So, Tuesday I ordered a new Tonic-X motor and a Hobbywing 40A esc from HeliDirect for it. Much to my surprise, it arrived on Thursday morning, so, Kudos to HeliDirect. Never used a Hobbywing esc before, and haven't really read much, good or bad about them, but been happy with the HW bec in my Hurri 425 so I thought I would give their esc's a road test. Also got the parts from AlleRC to repair my Hurri 425 that suffered a minor crash last weekend when the elevator arm broke in flight. I guess the crash could have been much worse, but the cnc anti-rotation bracket kept the swash from spinning after the arm broke, so, just a hard landing and then flipped on it's head. Hopefully the entire fleet will be airworthy this weekend, which for me doesn't seem to happen often.
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Post by dunkonu23 on Jul 16, 2010 23:32:40 GMT -5
Very cool, Jerry. I haven't flown my BH500 in a long time. Scott
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Post by Jerrymac on Jul 17, 2010 0:36:21 GMT -5
Very cool, Jerry. I haven't flown my BH500 in a long time. Scott Up until the motor/esc failure I still flew my BH450 every time I went out to the field. Since I removed the RX's from the little King 2's for other projects, I retired them, and like to use the BH for "warm-up" flights. Once i get the BH450 and the Hurri 425 repaired, I am going to go back to finishing going over and setting up the Gaui 200 now that I got the charge adapters for the Hyperion batteries. Then, who knows, if I don't have any crashes for a while I will work on getting the Hurri "500" build finished, then, maybe just start on the Gazaur Mars 480 that is still resting in the box.
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Post by dunkonu23 on Jul 17, 2010 10:52:40 GMT -5
It's good to have projects waiting. I have none, now... other than yard work. Scott
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